tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post8142727609001534774..comments2023-03-31T11:10:18.032+03:00Comments on Deo Volente Ex Animo: Oriented Towards the GoalThomas Gullicksonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13640680485289909046noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-92148798889605529892013-07-10T12:23:48.939+03:002013-07-10T12:23:48.939+03:00Very good! I know a lot of men who by nature need ...Very good! I know a lot of men who by nature need more direction and I guess workshops in the ars celebrandi would be of help. The issue is a fundamental hesitation and unwillingness, as far as the NO is concerned, to make some very simple adjustments and to follow the very clear and complete rubrics: liturgy of the word from the chair, Eucharistic Liturgy from the altar, turning 3 times to the congregation, post-communion prayer and blessing from the chair.<br /><br />I remember reading the America article you mention and not identifying at all with his sensation of "intense loneliness" or "solitude". The powerful silence of the TLM Low Mass is a culture shock after 40+ years of back and forth, but perhaps he should have started with the NO ad Orientem and properly celebrated. I really do think that Pope Benedict's option for mutual enrichment is born of wisdom and insight.<br /><br />I think I will try and post on these issues.<br />God bless! Thomas Gullicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640680485289909046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-84279853182040867502013-07-10T09:00:50.494+03:002013-07-10T09:00:50.494+03:00Mutual enrichment will have its impact on the OF a...Mutual enrichment will have its impact on the OF as more people are exposed to the EF, both solemn and sung and Low Mass. <br /><br />I notice that many younger priests, exposed to the EF, have introduced in the OF some of the rubrical fine points gained from this healthy exposure.<br /><br />For now, the two are worlds apart and I would move gradually with daily Mass and depend upon well-trained masters of ceremony for Cathedral Liturgy.Thomas Gullicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640680485289909046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-11882683315852164812013-07-09T22:49:30.255+03:002013-07-09T22:49:30.255+03:00If I might add something concerning the value of w...If I might add something concerning the value of workshops:<br /><br />Since there are lacunae in the Novus Ordo rubrics, such a workshop would also be helpful for teaching certain gestures and postures in continuity with tradition -- the mutual enrichment of which you speak, I think. For example, there are the times in the EF when one does a full 360° turn instead of a 180°-and-back, etc. There is nothing that I can see preventing these details from being brought into one's <em>ars celebrandi</em> for the OF (ad orientem), except for the ignorance which is widespread in these matters since most of us were born after the OF was introduced and few of us have been trained in the EF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-67316680035901787442013-07-09T22:45:08.034+03:002013-07-09T22:45:08.034+03:00I agree that workshops or something need to be don...I agree that workshops or something need to be done on <em>ars celebrandi</em> for ad orientem celebration; while the rubrics provide all that we need to know, it's such a big change for most that it helps to have live demonstrations and someone guiding the learning process.<br /><br />Also I wonder if there isn't a sort of mental block -- perhaps it could be called a "versus populum codependency" -- that needs to be gotten over for some. A priest friend of mine wrote <a href="http://americamagazine.org/issue/636/faith-focus/my-second-first-mass" rel="nofollow">this article</a> for America Magazine after beginning to celebrate the EF following Summorum Pontificum, in which he talks about the "intense loneliness" and "solitude" that he experienced in celebrating ad orientem with a congregation for the first time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-64167037997988222762013-07-07T16:48:05.792+03:002013-07-07T16:48:05.792+03:00It is more difficult to do that in parishes with l...It is more difficult to do that in parishes with large congregations - and therefore several EMHCs.Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6923995063430144879.post-40644493416193617072013-07-07T12:44:12.031+03:002013-07-07T12:44:12.031+03:00I think I'm right about the facility of restor...I think I'm right about the facility of restoring decorum to the Communion procession: <br />Fr. Thomas Kocik says:<br />9 June 2013 at 11:12 am<br />A few weeks ago, I had a Saturday afternoon wedding and decided not to remove the kneelers that had been placed at the head of the center aisle for the nuptial Mass. Just before the Saturday evening Mass, I informed the congregation that I wanted to leave the kneelers there for the convenience of those who prefer to receive Holy Communion kneeling. To my delight, nearly half the communicants did so. The kneelers will stay put… until I can restore the rail.<br /><br />Fr. Z's Gold Star AwardThomas Gullicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640680485289909046noreply@blogger.com